Gurbani says do not call Vedas false

Hindus say “Kateb” (Quraan, etc.) are “Jhoothae-ਝੂਠੇ” (i.e., false, fictitious, untrue…). Muslim say the Hindu “Bed-ਬੇਦ”  (Vedas) are “Jhoothae”. The Gurgani tells both of them to cut it off and not call each other’s “Bed” or “Kateb” as “Jhoothae” (i.e., respect other’s faith).

In the same breath, the Gurbani also tells them that false are those who don’t search and Reflect (Vichaar, contemplate, Understand…) on the truth in them. For, if not complete truth, there is some truth in them.

  • ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਹਹੁ ਮਤ ਝੂਠੇ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥: Do not tell Vedas and the Kateb (Quraan, etc.) to be false. False is he who does not Reflect on them. (sggs 1350).
  • ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਰਹਿ ਕਹ ਬਪੁਰੇ ਨਹ ਬੂਝਹਿ ਇਕ ਏਕਾ ॥: Vedas and Kateb (Quraan, etc.) are helpless, (because) peple do not understand the One (Truth). (sggs 1153).

“ਬਿਚਾਰੈ” (Bichaarai) is a very significant word in the above verse. What is Vichaar? Vichaar (or Bichaar...) enables one to experience and realize the Truth within. Therefore, the practice of Vichaar, quest of the Truth (Self-inquiry, ਆਤਮਕ ਜੀਵਨ ਦੀ ਪੜਤਾਲ…) is the introspective meditation that yields Divine Knowledge (Aatam Giaan, Spiritual Wisdom, Self-knowledge, ਆਤਮਕ ਜੀਵਨ ਦੀ ਸੂਝ…).

Thus, in nutshell, false are those who keep reading or reciting Vedas or Kateb mechanically (in the love of Maya), without Understanding the Truth in them or without Reflecting on their sublime Divine Essence (Naam, Aatam Giaan, Divine Knowledge…).

  • ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਭਿ ਸਾਸਤ ਇਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਪੜਿਆ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥: The Vedas, (Kateb (Quran, etc.), the Simirtis and Shastras, by (merely) reading all, liberation  (from Bikaar, doubt…) is not obtained: (sggs 747).
  • ਪੰਡਿਤ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਚੁਕਈ ਜੇ ਵੇਦ ਪੜੈ ਜੁਗ ਚਾਰਿ ॥: O Pandit! Even your filth (Bikaar, doubt…) does not get erased (even if you) read the Vedas for four ages. (sggs 647).
  •   ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਇਫਤਰਾ ਭਾਈ ਦਿਲ ਕਾ ਫਿਕਰੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥: O brother! (Mere reading of) the Vedas and Kateb (Quran, etc.) is a false show (make-believe, ਦਿਖਲਾਵਾ…) if the mind’s anxiety is not removed. (sggs 727).
  • ਵੇਦਾ ਮਹਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਉਤਮੁ ਸੋ ਸੁਣਹਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਫਿਰਹਿ ਜਿਉ ਬੇਤਾਲਿਆ ॥: In the Vedas, the Naam (is said to be) the Supreme; (but, those who pretend to look pure outside but are filthy or full of Bikaar inside – ਜੇਹੜੇ ਬੰਦੇ ਬਾਹਰੋਂ ਪਵਿਤ੍ਰ ਦਿੱਸਣ, ਲੇਕਨ ਮਨੋਂ ਵਿਕਾਰੀ ਹੋਣ) do not listen or pay attention to this (that the Naam is the most excellent – ਵੇਦਾਂ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਦਾ ਉੱਤਮ ਉਪਦੇਸ), and they wander around like demons. (sggs 919).

There are three kinds of people who control, run or are in charge of the organized religions or the religious places in this world: (1) those who want to be worshiped by others (ਅਪਣੀ ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਾਉਣੀ), (2) those who are greedy (Mayadhaaree-ਮਾਇਆਧਾਰੀ, ਠੱਗ…), (3) and those who desire name and fame (ਪਰਤਿਛਟਾ: honor, reputation, glory…).

The purveyors of Hinduism with these demoniac inclinations (Pujaare Group, crafty priests, Brahmins, Pandits, scholars, etc.) totally diluted or corrupted the truths in the Vedas. As a result, they misled people (ਗੁਮਰਾਹ, ਪੁੱਠੇ ਰਾਹ…) – they ill directed people away from the Path of the Truth and put them on the path of Maya or falsehood (“ਪੰਡਿਤ ਪਾੜੀ ਬਾਟ”), or they led people treading on an evil path Karamkaand (empty rituals) myths (ਮੰਨ ਘੜੰਤ ਸਾਖੀਆ, weird stories…), etc. (ਰਾਹ ਭੰਨ ਲਿਆ, ਪੁੱਠੇ ਰਸਤੇ ਪਾ ਦਿੱਤਾ). The Gurbani confirms this in the following verse:

  • ਪਾਹਨ ਬੋਰੀ ਪਿਰਥਮੀ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਪਾੜੀ ਬਾਟ ॥੧੩੭॥: Paahaan boree pirathamee pandit paarree baat ||137|| (sggs 1371).

To mend or correct this corruption, ill directions, or errors that were introduced by the purveyors of Hinduism (crafty priests, the Pujaaree Group…), the Gur-Sahibaan and the Bhagats searched and studied all the Saastr and Simriti. Their Divine Bani (or Gurbani) contains all the corrections. By the way, literally, the word “Veda” means Knowledge or Giaan.

  • ਸਭਿ ਨਾਦ ਬੇਦ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ॥: “Naad” and the Vedas are all in the Gurbani. (sggs 879).
  • ਨਾਨਕ ਸੋਧੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਬੇਦ ॥: Nanak sodhe simmriti Bed (sggs 1142).
  • ਸਾਸਤ ਬੇਦ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਭਿ ਸੋਧੇ ਸਭ ਏਕਾ ਬਾਤ ਪੁਕਾਰੀ ॥: Saasat bed simriti sabhi sodhe sabh ekaa baat pukaaree. (sggs 495).
  • ਸੋਧੇ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਗਲ ॥: Sodhe saastr simriti sagal (sggs 890).

Please note the word “ਸੋਧੇ” (Sodhe) in the foregoing verses – studied, searched, finding of essence, ਖੋਜ ਦੇਖੇ, ਸਮਝ-ਵਿਚਾਰੇ, ਘੋਖ ਭਾਲ ਕਰੇ, ਗਹੁ ਨਾਲ ਪੜ੍ਹੇ, ਵਿਚਾਰੇ, ਖੋਜ-ਭਾਲ ਕੀਤੀ, ਛਾਣ ਬੀਣ ਕੀਤੀ, ਜਾਂਚ ਕੀਤੀ…

Thus, the Wisdom of the Gurbani or Gurmat is not only for the Sikhs but also for the Hindu brethren as well. Because, it contains all the corrections.

In fact, the Instructions (ਉਪਦੇਸ…) and the Divine Knowledge (Aatam Giaan) of the Gurbani are for everybody in this world (“ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਇਸੁ ਜਗ ਮਹਿ ਚਾਨਣੁ”: Gurbani isu jag mahi chaananu).

  • ਖਤ੍ਰੀ ਬ੍ਰਾਹਮਣ ਸੂਦ ਵੈਸ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਚਹੁ ਵਰਨਾ ਕਉ ਸਾਝਾ ॥: The four Varna – the Kshatriya, Brahmins, Soodras and Vaishyas – are equal in respect to the Teaching (of the Gurbani…). (sggs 747).

Thus, according to the Gurbani, anybody and everybody can read the Gurbani and benefit from it (ਲਾਹਾ…). No particular person or a group owns it. Those who claim in the Gurdwaras that only a particular person or a particular group can read the Gurbani are utterly ignorant of the Gurbani!!

Now, the question is: “Is the current purveyors of the Sikhi (crafty priests, leaders/politician, people running the Gurdwaras, scholars…) doing the same with the Divine Knowledge of the Gurbani (Gurmat) what the purveyors of Hinduism did with the Vedas? This author happens to think yes.

6 replies on “Gurbani says do not call Vedas false”

Thank you for bringing up this issue and illustrated it so well. Guru Sahib often used the term ved as a generic term for religious scriptures; they are many. We are going away from Vichaar tradition and replacing it with mere rituals. That will bring darkness extinguishing the light of wisdom obtained only by Gur SABD vichaar.

Dear T Singh Ji
Thanks for Sharing this elaborate research on Veds as per Gurbani.

Lots of the Sikh masses hate the word Ved without going into any details about it as per Gurmat.

I think that Hindu is not a Faith like Turk. They are the sects born out of Sanatan and Islam Faiths.

There are indications in Gurbani.
Kabir Ji says
Hindu Turak Kahan Tay Aayeh
Kinh Eh Raah Chalayeh.

Kabir Ji also accepts that Sanatan Faith is not worthwhile and says that Vedic thought process is Supreme and opposite to it.

Ab Manh Ulat Sanatan Huha.

My mind has Discarded the Sanatan Faith.

Also Gur Nanak Ji Says
Musalmaan Kahavan Mushkil.

But don’t say Hindu Kahawan Mushkil.

Hence Veds are against the Idol Worshipping.

Thank you Bhai Sahib Gurjeet Singh Ji for sharing the Shabad-Vichaar. I value your Shabad-Vichaar (understanding Gurbani through the Gurbani). So, thank you for improving this post Ji.

Gurbani is like the vast sea of nectar for life and soul…and life complete and fulfilled if one is able to attain one single drop of this ….Hey waheguru,….Kindly enlighten us lesser mortals….Satnam waheguru….satnam waheguru. satnam waheguru, satnam waheguru satnam waheguru satnam waheguru !!!!!

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