Sukh Sagar

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1. This is off topic

   Anyhow, here are a few possibly related posts that may interest you:
   – Develop Partnership with Virtues
   – Gurbani Speaks of one Universal Dharma of Virtues
   – Core of Gurmat Spirituality – Kiv Sachiaaraa Hoeeai?
   – Hukam is the Core of Sikhi

2. This is off topic but is eating food an example of Hukam? Your guru within tells you when to eat and you eat food. But if you eat food when you are not hungry it brings about illness. So that would be an example of not listening to Hukam, which is the cause of suffering according to Nanak/ Kabir. Is this a correct interpretation.

   I don’t really agree with the idea of divine virtues, being virtues that don’t come from Akal Purakh, as we know that Akal Purakh the creator cannot have virtues attributed to him but rather the outcome of listening to guru bani. We can only listen to guru bani and be aware of it and not allow ourselves to fall into traps put out by priests, rituals, cultural that cause are suffering by having an awareness of the creator.

   But I don’t think we can say that virtues come directly from it in the way that you and Karminder understand (though I have massive respect for you guys) and that we can emulate the virtues by being good etc, but that we become good (divine) by listening to guru-bani, when we love someone, when we are hungry etc, when our mind feels doubtful of something, because that rids our mind of suffering that causes arrogance, five thieves.

   I think the fragrance that Nanak refers to is not the virtues themselves but rather what creates them, guru-bani, which is both physical and mental and beyond our current understanding of just conscious.

   For example when someone gets braces on their teeth they have to wear a retainer, if they don’t wear the retainer their teeth overtime will merge back to the original position. Is this an example of guru – bani too but in a physical sense.

   I am not sure. Anyways I enjoy reading your articles as they are very unique.

3. Thanks Veer Harvinder Singh Ji for taking the time to respond! Welcome to the Gurbani Blog!

   Sukh Sagar is a state of mind when…

   Thank you Ji!

4. Sukh Sagar can not be obtained until and unless we be one with the one. It is not a one day process. It can be obtained if we are continuously connected with Sewa, Simran and Satsang and we abide by the teachings of the True Master. Sukh Sagar is a state of mind when our desires have finished, even we do not have attachment with our body also and our consciousness has become pure.

5. Welcome to the Gurbani Blog Bhai Sahib Jeeo!

6. Thank you for illuminating about Sukh saagar through reference through Gurbani.

7. HIRDEY KAMAL VIGASSA Please read my views for T S JI,GURUS ALWAYS EMPHASISED ON TRUE state of bhagat,SUNIEY GAVEY MAN RARHEYE BHAV. You have toexperience the state of NOTHINGNESS WITHIN,HOW DO YOU reach ? by dhyan vidhi,you got to learn T M /MEDITATION/SACH TAN PAR JANEY,JE RIDA SACHA HOI,SACH TAN PAR JANEY JE SACH PALE HOI.TRUTH CAN BEexperienced/can not be spoken/heard,when you speak your man/vichar/budhi soils SACH CHIT ANAND,IT IS A STATE OF BLISS ANAND PIYA MERI MAYE is exclamtion of being thoughtless/egoless/choiceless,YOU can learn meditation KAMAL (LOTUS)in its full exposure is what SHLOK is ref ering to YOUR STATE OF BLISS (ANAND) vigassa is full bloom. please read GURUBANI with total devotion and get to the depth of 2last lines to get essence of true ARTH
   WAHE GURU BLESS YOU SHAMMI WADHWA JI Billoo bhai

8. may i humbly submit,yourcommentry is exellent ,covers all aspects of shabads &meanings,may i add, let us move towards experiencing the state of SUN SAMADHI,TURIYA AWASTHA,BE IN BLISS, ANAND MAI STATE which is missing. GURUS laid so much emphasis onDHYAN WIDHI,i fully appreciate your views on death anniversaries,kirtan,katha vachaks who have noclue as to what GURUS wanted to convey.

   WAHE GURU BLESS YOU FOR YOUR NISHKAM SEWA BILLOO BHAI

9. Thanks for your knowledge sharing, Sir. Kindly , please read the following and correct and guide me in the direction of understanding of Gurbani, so as to accomplish the real aim of Shabad Veechar. I am too new in this direction and want guidance free of rites and rituals, interests. This understanding has become possible because of the softwares describing SGGS with meaning free of interests and rituals.
   Because, writing this, I could express my feelings and thoughts to a better extent and sharing this might help me go in the right direction.
   Like it is stated, Sukh Sagar is a mental state of peace and bliss in the mind which is free from the overwhelming response to happiness and sadness by the Gurmukh who remains stable in all kinds of situations or circumstances.
   This is too easier to be said than to be done and further,it has to be stressed upon Peace and bliss rather than SUKH in punjabi literal meaning, as , myself too, always interpreted the word SUKH in Gurbani as to the happiness we get in all spheres of life, which I used to feel as being only addressed to the materialistic Sukhs . But now with further depth into the knowledge, it is understood that Sukh Sagar is simply the state of Bliss/Peace.
   To attain it, One needs to meditate on His NAME, follow his WILL, Control his senses/mind, imbibe in sat, santokh , daya, dheeraj, dharam( honesty, contentment, empathy, control, determination).
   Gurbani says we all will go, what stays is the Naam. To Accept what He does and that what we do is nothing is the best virtue of one’s life which will inculcate the five good virtues and will help control the five senses( the mind).
   Those who believe are also made to believe, by HIM and those who don’t are also by HIM. We are mere ant like creatures in front of HIM. We need to learn to live by His Will even in the presence of the materialistic world, also created by HIM. Its all the lifestyle that matters- that of a Gurmukh or a Manmukh.
   It is all His wish who lives and when and where and how he lives. “KUDRAT KAVAN KAHAN VEECHAR VAAREYAN NA JA EK VAAR JO TUDH BHAVAI SAAIN BHALIKAAR TU SADA SALAMAT NIRANKAAR”
   To follow His Will, we need to know the Will. To know the Will we need to connect with HIM. To connect we need to Meditate on His Name. To meditate on His Name , we need to believe in Him, fall in love with Him , Appraise Him, Sing his Praises, chant his Name, read and listen to his glory through the scriptures( Bani that exclusively does that, written by those who truely followed it).
   Realising and practizing this concept Guru Nanak Dev Ji simply summarized His Will as- “Kirat Karo, Naam Japo, Vand Chako”.
   The Mind that does the above stays in peace and poise, calm and blissful.
   As in the current era this has absolutely become “easier said than done”, as the majority has turned the other way round( that too, again with the Will of the Lord Almighty). What’s required is the Sadh Sangat- the company of those who practise these principles in their daily life . The company- good or bad has its effect of re- inforcement of the job being done collectively by the company as compared to the single isolated one.
   So, the true Company( (of the Gurmukhs) gives the strength and encouragement to follow the true principles. To live in Sadh Sangat is another pre requisite which is attained only by His Will, in those who understand the true essence.

   Thus, it is by the virtue of internet that I feel I found the true Sadh Sangat , the company which too feels and tries to practice the same.I am too new in this direction and thus ,want guidance. This understanding has become possible because of the re-inforcement by the softwares describing SGGS with meaning, free of interests and rituals.
   “Hum sar deen dyal na tum sar ab patiyaar kya keejai”
   ” Hum moorakh agiyaan giyaan kich naahi, Satgur te samajh padi man mahi”

   May GOD bless!!!

10. Thank you so much Veer Ji for updating my knowledge. I have just started to learn Punjabi to read SGGS and let see how Lord can take me further.
    I just want to know how can we understand the meaning of various words in SGGS, as these words have differenent meaning at different places. Like Dhan is also called as Wife, Money and Maya or Amrit Naam.
    But how can we know which meaning at which place ?
    And if i start reading SGGS, then how to understand the meaning of sentences written by Guru Sahibaan as we are not into that state or could you suggest some books, where these meaning has been elaborated by learned person.

11. Shammi Ji you may find this Gurbani Article of some interest: Heart Lotus

12. Sir thank you for your reply, but my question is when can we achieve that state of HIRDEY KAMAL BIGASSIA…..or how can be that opposite flower becomes upwards or how to be enlightened with divine knowledge.

13. Thank you Sammi Ji for your kind words.

    let me know the meaning of Hirdey Kamal Bigassia

    Very briefly:
    kamal pragaas: ਅੰਤਰਿ ਕਮਲੁ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸਿਆ: ਅੰਤਰਿ or Antari => within; ਕਮਲੁ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸਿਆ or Kamal Pragaasiaa => Heart Enlightened with the Divine Knowledge (ਗਿਆਨ ਅਵਸਤਾ – Giaan Avastaa…)…
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14. sir i have started to read your artciles which are really fascinating and full of knowledge and of course there is Lord’ grace upon you that you are able to understand gurbani in true sense. just let me know the meaning of Hirdey Kamal Bigassia means ulta hirdey kamal seedha ho gaya……i know it is the instance of inner avastha, but with the help of gurbani, you can share with me….