ਤੂ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਦਾਤਾ ਦਾਨਿ ਮਤਿ ਪੂਰਾ ਹਮ ਥਾਰੇ ਭੇਖਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥ ਮੈ ਕਿਆ ਮਾਗਉ ਕਿਛੁ ਥਿਰੁ ਨ ਰਹਾਈ ਹਰਿ ਦੀਜੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਿਆਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਵਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ ॥ ਜਲਿ ਥਲਿ ਮਹੀਅਲਿ ਗੁਪਤੋ ਵਰਤੈ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੀ ਦੇਖਿ ਨਿਹਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਮਰਤ ਪਇਆਲ ਅਕਾਸੁ ਦਿਖਾਇਓ ਗੁਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਧਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥ ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਅਜੋਨੀ ਹੈ ਭੀ ਹੋਨੀ ਘਟ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਦੇਖੁ ਮੁਰਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥੨॥ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨ ਕਉ ਇਹੁ ਜਗੁ ਬਪੁੜੋ ਇਨਿ ਦੂਜੈ ਭਗਤਿ ਵਿਸਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਤ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਸਾਕਤ ਬਾਜੀ ਹਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥੩॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਬੰਧਨ ਤੋੜਿ ਨਿਰਾਰੇ ਬਹੁੜਿ ਨ ਗਰਭ ਮਝਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਗਿਆਨ ਰਤਨੁ ਪਰਗਾਸਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਮਨਿ ਵਸਿਆ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥੪॥੮॥ : O God (present within)! You are the Great Giver and perfect in Wisdom, we are merely your beggars (who subsist on Your Great Giving). What else I can ask for? Nothing lasts forever. O God! Please Bless with Your Naam (Wisdom / Virtues). ||1|| God pervades Within each and everyone. In the water, on the land and in the sky (O God, You) pervades but hidden; You are revealed through the Enlightening Message of the Guru’s Shabad (i.e. O my mind, see THAT ONE Universal Energy through internalizing the spiritual Message of the Guru‘s Shabad). ||Pause|| With the Grace of His Wisdom, the Satguru has revealed God pervading everywhere and in everything. I have also realized through the Satguru that God does not go through womb; He is present now, and shall ever be; realize God Within. ||2|| (Due to) the love of duality, mortals in this world are caught in cyclic birth and death of spiritual life (Here and Now); it has forgotten Bhagati. Gurmat is realized by internalizing the Satguru’s Teachings, Saakat loses the game of life. ||3|| By internalizing the Satguru’s Teachings, those who liberate themselves by breaking the bonds of Maya, they do not fall into the womb of cyclic suffering. Nanak, whose mind is Enlightened by the Jewel of Wisdom, they realize the presence of Formless God Within. ||4||8|| (sggs 597).
Thank you very much Sir for heart feeling response,
Considering your point of view as
One’s own True State is his Mool…….From Gurbanee this Mool is stated to be A WAVE
(JOTi) and you will appreciate that any wave should have its own FORM.
So This Mool can not be considered as FORM LESS.
However it should be understandable that Origin or Source of NIRANKAAR can be FORMLESS but NIRANKAAR is a reference for Specific FORM of Parbrahmu,Parmesharu or SatiGuRu as A WAVE.
I think this very fact of Gurbanee is either not being understood or being overlooked it is beyond my imagination.
I hope we must interact on this crucial aspect in some more depth for further clarity.
Thank you so much Vir Jio for sharing your Vichaar.
Yes, but That for is different from the Worldly Visible Forms. As indicated in the verse you quoted, That form is “Sati Saroop” (ਸਤਿ ਸਰੂਪੁ).
The term “Sroop” originated from the Sanskrit term “Svaroop”, which essentially means “your own, true state” (Sva +Roop).
One’s own True State is his Mool. That’s what the the quoted verse talks about the Mool, within (ਸਤਿ ਸਰੂਪੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਜਿਨਿ ਮਾਨਿਆ ॥ ਕਰਨ ਕਰਾਵਨ ਤਿਨਿ ਮੂਲੁ ਪਛਾਨਿਆ ॥).
And, as indicated in the verse, That sroop is “Sati Saroop” (ਸਤਿ ਸਰੂਪੁ).
Sat (Truth) is indicated to have no “Roop” (form…), no “Rekh” (shape…), and no “Rang” (color).
“Roop” (form…), “Rekh” (shape…), and “Rang” (color) are seen only in Maya. Since our Mool is beyond Maya, the Mool is beyond or without “Roop” (form…), “Rekh” (shape…), and “Rang” (color).
Hence, the Mool is essentially Formless.
• ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖ ਨ ਰੰਗੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਹੁ ਗੁਣ ਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਿੰਨ ॥ (sggs 283).
• ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੁ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ॥ (sggs 998).
• ਕਬੀਰ ਚਰਨ ਕਮਲ ਕੀ ਮਉਜ ਕੋ ਕਹਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਨਮਾਨ ॥ ਕਹਿਬੇ ਕਉ ਸੋਭਾ ਨਹੀ ਦੇਖਾ ਹੀ ਪਰਵਾਨੁ ॥੧੨੧॥ (1370).
Respected T Singh Ji,
I like your way of interpretation very much and you leave very little scope of any disagreement
about the presented views.
However I would like to share my persone understanding about the meaning of the word NIRANKAAR.
I find the meaning to this word is always taken as FORMLESS but I find it otherwise.
One can see that the actual word for FORMLESS is NIRAAKAR not the word NIRANKAAR.
Moreover from Gurbanee I find that GuRu ji is vividly telling about the FORM of The CREATOR. For this one can give attention to a Quote from Banee Sukhmanee as
“Sati Saroop Jin Janeya ,Karan Karwan Tin mool Pachaneya”
So one can look for Sati Saroop?
As I have understood gurbanee connects us with some specific FORM of the Creator
which is probably being overlooked.
With Kind regards
Prakash.S.Bagga